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Last updated: April 19, 2026
Application No. 18/003,105

SIDELINK ROUND-TRIP TIME MEASUREMENTS

Non-Final OA §102§103§112
Filed
Dec 22, 2022
Examiner
REYES ORTIZ, HECTOR E
Art Unit
2472
Tech Center
2400 — Computer Networks
Assignee
Qualcomm Incorporated
OA Round
3 (Non-Final)
82%
Grant Probability
Favorable
3-4
OA Rounds
3y 0m
To Grant
94%
With Interview

Examiner Intelligence

Grants 82% — above average
82%
Career Allow Rate
245 granted / 298 resolved
+24.2% vs TC avg
Moderate +12% lift
Without
With
+11.6%
Interview Lift
resolved cases with interview
Typical timeline
3y 0m
Avg Prosecution
31 currently pending
Career history
329
Total Applications
across all art units

Statute-Specific Performance

§101
3.0%
-37.0% vs TC avg
§103
59.2%
+19.2% vs TC avg
§102
17.5%
-22.5% vs TC avg
§112
13.3%
-26.7% vs TC avg
Black line = Tech Center average estimate • Based on career data from 298 resolved cases

Office Action

§102 §103 §112
Detail Action The office action is in response to the communications filed on 11/24/2025. Notice of AIA Status The present application, filed on or after March 16, 2013, is being examined under the first inventor to file provisions of the AIA . Claims Status Claim 4 and 14 have been cancelled. Claims 1-3, 5-13, and 15-25 are pending in this application. Prior Art Made of Record The prior art made of record and not relied upon is considered pertinent to applicant's disclosure. Farag et al. (Publication No. US 2021/0243720), the prior art discloses that the processor determines: a time of arrival for the first UL or SL signal relative to a reference time for the first UL or SL signal; a propagation time for the first UL or SL signal; a distance between the UE and the other UE determined based on at least the time of arrival for the first UL or SL signal, a first round trip time for transmissions between a base station and the other UE, and a second round trip time for transmissions between the base station and the UE; see ¶ 8. Response to Arguments Regarding claim 1, Applicant remarks, filed on 11/24/2025, argues that the cited portion of the prior art, individually or in combination, fails to discloses the features in claim 1. In specific, Applicant indicates that the features reciting a “wherein the SL RTT measurement is based on a time of transmission of the SL RTT measurement request by the UE” are not disclosed by the prior art. Examiner agrees, based on the remarks, that the amendments to claim 1 overcome the prior art rejection. However, a new ground of rejection necessitated by the claim amendments. The new ground of rejection discloses that the that the PRS signaling is the measuring request itself. The prior art discloses that the target UE calculates a second time difference based on the determines the departure time (t1) of the first PRS, and combines it with the arrival time (t4) in order to calculate the second time difference (t4-t1). Furthermore, the first time difference in combination with the second time difference enables the determination of the RTT measurement; see figure 19 step 1930-1950. Regarding claims 9 and 18, the claims were objected to because the informality with the abbreviation(s) (i.e. “L1, L2, or L3”). However, the new claims, filed on 11/24/2025, have corrected the objection by expanding the abbreviations to indicate what it stands for. Therefore, the objection has been withdrawn. Claim Rejections - 35 USC § 112 The following is a quotation of 35 U.S.C. 112(b): (b) CONCLUSION.—The specification shall conclude with one or more claims particularly pointing out and distinctly claiming the subject matter which the inventor or a joint inventor regards as the invention. Claims 1-4, 6, and 24-26 are rejected under 35 U.S.C. 112(b) as being indefinite for failing to particularly point out and distinctly claim the subject matter which the inventor or a joint inventor regards as the invention. Regarding Claim 1 , it’s ambiguous whether there are two UE in the claim. The first limitation discloses a first UE transmitting the SL RTT measurement request to at least one UE, while the second limitation discloses a second UE transmitting a response based on receiving the SL RTT measurement request. This present a contradiction in which a single UE is transmitting the request and receiving the response. Therefore, renders the claim to be indefinite. Examiner suggest amending the claim in such a way that there is a distinction between the UE transmitting the request and the UE transmitting the response. Regarding Claims 2-4, 6, and 24-26, the claims are rejected as they inherited the deficiency of the parent claim and have not resolved the deficiency. Therefore, the claims rejected based on the same rationale as applied to the parent claim above. Claim Rejections - 35 USC § 102 The following is a quotation of the appropriate paragraphs of 35 U.S.C. 102 that form the basis for the rejections under this section made in this Office action: A person shall be entitled to a patent unless – (a)(2) the claimed invention was described in a patent issued under section 151, or in an application for patent published or deemed published under section 122(b), in which the patent or application, as the case may be, names another inventor and was effectively filed before the effective filing date of the claimed invention. Claims 1-3, 8-13, and 17-25 are rejected under AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(a)(2) as being anticipated by Ko et al. (Publication No. US 2022/0361142, hereinafter referred to as Ko ). Regarding claims 1, 20, 22, and 24, Ko discloses transmitting a sidelink (SL) round-trip time (RTT) measurement request to at least one UE (A target UE transmit a first PRS [measurement request] to a server UE, wherein the time point when the target UE transmits the first PRS [request] to the server UE may be expressed as t1; see figure 19 Step 1910 & ¶ 0286. NOTE: The first PRS has been equated to the request because it triggers the RTT measurement on the server UE. After receiving the first PRS, the server determines the arrival time (t2) of the first PRS and the departure time (t3) in order to calculate the first time difference (t3-t2). The first time difference in combination with a second time difference enables the determination of the RTT measurement; see figure 19 step 1930-1950.); and communicating, with the at least one UE in response to the SL RTT measurement request, an indication of an SL RTT measurement (In response to the first PRS [measurement request], the server UE may transmit a second PRS to the target UE, wherein the time point at which the server UE transmits the second PRS to the target UE may be expressed as t3; see figure 19 step 1920. Furthermore, the server UE transmit a first time difference [indication of the SL RTT measurement], wherein the first time difference may be a time difference between a time point at which the server UE transmits the second PRS to the target UE and a time point at which the server UE receives the first PRS; see figure 19 step 1930 & ¶ 289. For example, the first time difference may be expressed as t3−t2; see ¶ 289.). wherein the SL RTT measurement request is based on a time of transmission of the SL RTT measurement request by the UE (A target UE transmit a first PRS [measurement request] to a server UE, wherein the time point when the target UE transmits the first PRS [request] to the server UE may be expressed as t1; see figure 19 Step 1910 & ¶ 0286. NOTE: After transmitting the first PRS [trigger], the target UE determines the departure time (t1) of the first PRS, and combines it with the arrival time (t4) in order to calculate the second time difference (t4-t1). The first time difference in combination with a second time difference enables the determination of the RTT measurement; see figure 19 step 1930-1950; see figure 19 step 1930-1940.). Regarding claims 2 and 12, Ko discloses that the communicating comprises transmitting the SL RTT measurement indication to the at least one UE (The server UE transmit a first time difference [indication of the SL RTT measurement], wherein the first time difference may be a time difference between a time point at which the server UE transmits the second PRS to the target UE and a time point at which the server UE receives the first PRS; see figure 19 step 1930 & ¶ 289. For example, the first time difference may be expressed as t3−t2; see ¶ 289.) Regarding claim 3, Ko discloses that the at least one UE comprises a single UE (The target UE transmit a first positioning reference signal (PRS) to the server UE; see figure 19.). Regarding claims 8 and 17, Ko discloses that the SL RTT measurement request is configured to request a series of SL RTT measurement repetitions (The target UE transmit a first PTS and a second PRS; see figure 17 step 1740-1750.). Regarding claims 9 and 18, Ko discloses that the transmitting transmits the SL RTT measurement request via L1, L2 or L3 signaling (It is inherent that the communication be transmitted at least by a layer 1 signaling; see figure 19). Regarding claims 10 and 19, Ko discloses that the SL RTT measurement indication is associated with a demodulation reference signal (DMRS) of a physical sidelink control channel (PSCCH) or a physical sidelink shared channel (PSSCH) (The server UE transmit a first time difference [indication of the SL RTT measurement], wherein the first time difference may be a time difference between a time point at which the server UE transmits the second PRS to the target UE and a time point at which the server UE receives the first PRS; see figure 19 step 1930 & ¶ 289. For example, the first time difference may be expressed as t3−t2; see ¶ 289. Furthermore, the server UE may accept the request for participation in the SL RTT based on a measurement value of reference signal received power (RSRP) for a demodulation reference signal (DMRS) related to a first PSCCH transmitted by the first UE; see figure 17 step 1720 & ¶ 0210. NOTE: The limitation fails to explicitly disclose the type of association, between the measurement indication and the DMRS of the PSCCH. Thus, the association has been interpreted as the determination to participate in the RTT measurement.). Regarding claims 11, 21, 23 and 25, Ko discloses receiving a sidelink (SL) round-trip time (RTT) measurement request from a second UE (A target UE transmit a first PRS [measurement request] to a server UE, wherein the time point when the target UE transmits the first PRS [request] to the server UE may be expressed as t1; see figure 19 Step 1910 & ¶ 0286. NOTE: The first PRS has been equated to the request because it triggers the RTT measurement on the server UE. After receiving the first PRS, the server determines the arrival time (t2) of the first PRS and the departure time (t3) in order to calculate the first time difference (t3-t2). The first time difference in combination with a second time difference enables the determination of the RTT measurement; see figure 19 step 1930-1950.); and communicating, with the second UE in response to the SL RTT measurement request, an indication of an SL RTT measurement (In response to the first PRS [measurement request], the server UE may transmit a second PRS to the target UE, wherein the time point at which the server UE transmits the second PRS to the target UE may be expressed as t3; see figure 19 step 1920. Furthermore, the server UE transmit a first time difference [indication of the SL RTT measurement], wherein the first time difference may be a time difference between a time point at which the server UE transmits the second PRS to the target UE and a time point at which the server UE receives the first PRS; see figure 19 step 1930 & ¶ 289. For example, the first time difference may be expressed as t3−t2; see ¶ 289.). wherein the SL RTT measurement request is based on a time of transmission of the SL RTT measurement request at the first UE (A target UE transmit a first PRS [measurement request] to a server UE, wherein the time point when the target UE transmits the first PRS [request] to the server UE may be expressed as t1; see figure 19 Step 1910 & ¶ 0286. NOTE: After transmitting the first PRS [trigger], the target UE determines the departure time (t1) of the first PRS, and combines it with the arrival time (t4) in order to calculate the second time difference (t4-t1). The first time difference in combination with a second time difference enables the determination of the RTT measurement; see figure 19 step 1930-1950; see figure 19 step 1930-1940.). Regarding claim 13, Ko the SL RTT measurement request is a unicast message (The SL communication can be broadcast-type or unicast-type; see figure 11 & ¶ 0110.). Claim Rejections - 35 USC § 103 The following is a quotation of AIA 35 U.S.C. 103 which forms the basis for all obviousness rejections set forth in this Office action: A patent may not be obtained though the invention is not identically disclosed or described as set forth in section 102 of this title, if the differences between the subject matter sought to be patented and the prior art are such that the subject matter as a whole would have been obvious at the time the invention was made to a person having ordinary skill in the art to which said subject matter pertains. Patentability shall not be negatived by the manner in which the invention was made. The factual inquiries set forth in Graham v. John Deere Co., 383 U.S. 1, 148 USPQ 459 (1966), that are applied for establishing a background for determining obviousness under AIA 35 U.S.C. 103 are summarized as follows: 1. Determining the scope and contents of the prior art. 2. Ascertaining the differences between the prior art and the claims at issue. 3. Resolving the level of ordinary skill in the pertinent art. 4. Considering objective evidence present in the application indicating obviousness or nonobviousness. Claims 5 and 15 are rejected under AIA 35 U.S.C. 103 as being unpatentable over by Ko et al. (Publication No. US 2022/0361142, hereinafter referred to as Ko ) in view of Edge et al. (Publication No. US 2013/0316727, hereinafter referred as Edge). Regarding claim 5, Ko discloses that the at least one UE comprises a plurality of UEs (The target UE may request a server UE 1 and a server UE 2 to participate in SL RTT; see figure 18 step 1810.). Ko discloses transmitting the PRS to the server UE, but fails to explicitly disclose that the transmitting broadcasts, groupcasts or multicasts the SL RTT measurement request to the plurality of UEs. However, in analogous art, Edge discloses that the D2D communication comprises broadcasting signals such as Positioning Reference Signal (PRS); see ¶ 68. It would have been obvious to one of ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to modify Ko measurement system with the broadcasting mechanism of Edge in order to the capability to measure multiple UEs using a single message. Regarding claim 15, Ko discloses transmitting the PRS to the server UE, but fails to explicitly disclose that the SL RTT measurement request is a broadcast, groupcast or multicast message. However, in analogous art, Edge discloses that the D2D communication comprises broadcasting signals such as Positioning Reference Signal (PRS); see ¶ 68. It would have been obvious to one of ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to modify Ko measurement system with the broadcasting mechanism of Edge in order to the capability to measure multiple UEs using a single message. Claims 6-7 and 16 are rejected under AIA 35 U.S.C. 103 as being unpatentable over by Ko et al. (Publication No. US 20220361142, hereinafter referred to as Ko ) in view of Edge et al. (Publication No. US 2013/0316727, hereinafter referred as Edge) and further in view of Chae et al. (Publication No. US 2018/0098299, hereinafter referred as Chae). Regarding claim 6, Ko fails to disclose that the communicating comprising receiving the SL RTT measurement indication from a subset of the plurality of UEs that comprises one or more UEs with a known absolute location, and wherein the receiving further receives an indication of the respective known absolute location from the one or more UEs in the subset. However, in analogous art, Chae discloses that the response signal transmitted by the second UE includes location information; see ¶ 0100. It would have been obvious to one of ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to modify Ko with the location information in order to know an approximate radius of an absolute location of the second UE; see ¶ 0100. Regarding claims 7 and 16, Ko fails to disclose that determining whether an absolute location of the UE is known, wherein the communicating comprises transmitting the SL RTT measurement indication to the at least one UE along with an indication of the known absolute location of the UE.However, in analogous art, Chae discloses that the response signal transmitted by the second UE includes location information; see ¶ 0100. It would have been obvious to one of ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to modify Ko with the location information in order to know an approximate radius of an absolute location of the second UE; see ¶ 0100. Conclusion Any inquiry concerning this communication or earlier communications from the examiner should be directed to HECTOR REYES whose telephone number is (571)270-0239. The examiner can normally be reached M-F 6-5. Examiner interviews are available via telephone, in-person, and video conferencing using a USPTO supplied web-based collaboration tool. To schedule an interview, applicant is encouraged to use the USPTO Automated Interview Request (AIR) at http://www.uspto.gov/interviewpractice. If attempts to reach the examiner by telephone are unsuccessful, the examiner’s supervisor, Kevin Bates can be reached on (571) 272-3980. The fax phone number for the organization where this application or proceeding is assigned is 571-273-8300. Information regarding the status of published or unpublished applications may be obtained from Patent Center. Unpublished application information in Patent Center is available to registered users. To file and manage patent submissions in Patent Center, visit: https://patentcenter.uspto.gov. Visit https://www.uspto.gov/patents/apply/patent-center for more information about Patent Center and https://www.uspto.gov/patents/docx for information about filing in DOCX format. For additional questions, contact the Electronic Business Center (EBC) at 866-217-9197 (toll-free). If you would like assistance from a USPTO Customer Service Representative, call 800-786-9199 (IN USA OR CANADA) or 571-272-1000. /H.R/Examiner, Art Unit 2472 /KEVIN T BATES/Supervisory Patent Examiner, Art Unit 2472
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Prosecution Timeline

Dec 22, 2022
Application Filed
Mar 19, 2025
Non-Final Rejection — §102, §103, §112
Jun 11, 2025
Response Filed
Sep 18, 2025
Final Rejection — §102, §103, §112
Nov 24, 2025
Response after Non-Final Action
Dec 22, 2025
Request for Continued Examination
Jan 06, 2026
Response after Non-Final Action
Jan 09, 2026
Non-Final Rejection — §102, §103, §112 (current)

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