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Last updated: October 01, 2026
Application No. 19/186,742

CHANNEL INFORMATION OBTAINING METHOD AND APPARATUS

Non-Final OA §102
Filed
Apr 23, 2025
Priority
Oct 24, 2022 — CN 202211307947.8 +1 more
Examiner
SALTARELLI, DOMINIC D
Art Unit
Tech Center
Assignee
Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
OA Round
1 (Non-Final)
79%
Grant Probability
Favorable
1-2
OA Rounds
1y 1m
Est. Remaining
94%
With Interview

Examiner Intelligence

Grants 79% — above average
79%
Career Allowance Rate
683 granted / 864 resolved
+19.1% vs TC avg
Moderate +15% lift
Without
With
+14.8%
Interview Lift
resolved cases with interview
Typical timeline
2y 6m
Avg Prosecution
19 currently pending
Career history
878
Total Applications
across all art units

Statute-Specific Performance

§101
6.1%
-33.9% vs TC avg
§103
46.6%
+6.6% vs TC avg
§102
24.4%
-15.6% vs TC avg
§112
2.9%
-37.1% vs TC avg
Black line = Tech Center average estimate • Based on career data from 864 resolved cases

Office Action

§102
DETAILED ACTION Notice of Pre-AIA or AIA Status The present application, filed on or after March 16, 2013, is being examined under the first inventor to file provisions of the AIA . Claim Rejections - 35 USC § 102 In the event the determination of the status of the application as subject to AIA 35 U.S.C. 102 and 103 (or as subject to pre-AIA 35 U.S.C. 102 and 103) is incorrect, any correction of the statutory basis (i.e., changing from AIA to pre-AIA ) for the rejection will not be considered a new ground of rejection if the prior art relied upon, and the rationale supporting the rejection, would be the same under either status. The following is a quotation of the appropriate paragraphs of 35 U.S.C. 102 that form the basis for the rejections under this section made in this Office action: A person shall be entitled to a patent unless – (a)(2) the claimed invention was described in a patent issued under section 151, or in an application for patent published or deemed published under section 122(b), in which the patent or application, as the case may be, names another inventor and was effectively filed before the effective filing date of the claimed invention. Claims 1-10 are rejected under 35 U.S.C. 102(a)(2) as being anticipated by Abotabl et al. (2022/0416867) [Abotabl]. Regarding claims 1 and 6, Abotabl discloses a channel information obtaining method, comprising: obtaining a frequency division duplex (FDD) downlink channel and a time division duplex (TDD) channel (paragraphs 0053-0054 and 0061); determining a first channel based on the FDD downlink channel and the TDD channel (at least one channel will have a reference signal with channel state information, paragraph 0064); performing inverse discrete Fourier transform (IDFT) on the first channel to obtain a second channel (paragraph 0069); and sending first information based on the second channel (reference signal transmitted from user equipment, paragraph 0066). Regarding claims 2 and 7, Abotabl discloses the method and apparatus according to claims 1 and 6, wherein sending the first information based on the second channel comprises: obtaining first energy of the second channel based on the second channel wherein the first energy is a sum of energy of all coefficients in the second channel (paragraphs 0011 and 0056); determining second energy based on the first energy, wherein the second energy is a sum of energy coefficient in a set A; and determining the first information based on the second energy, wherein the first information comprises position information and phase information of the set A on the second channel (determining the channel based on measurements send form user equipment, paragraph 0066). Regarding claims 3 and 8, Abotabl discloses the method and apparatus according to claims 1 and 7, wherein obtaining the FDD downlink channel and the TDD channel comprises: receiving a first reference signal, wherein the first reference signal is from a network device; and obtaining the FDD downlink channel and the TDD channel based on the first reference signal (paragraph 0064). Regarding claims 4 and 9, Abotabl discloses the method and apparatus according to claims 1 and 6, wherein the determining a first channel based on the FDD downlink channel and the TDD comprises: performing a first operation on the FDD downlink channel and the TDD channel based on first indication information to obtain the first channel wherein the first indication information comprises a start point and an end point of a bandwidth of the first channel (physical layer, paragraph 0065). Regarding claims 5 and 10, Abotabl discloses the method and apparatus according to claims 4 and 9, wherein the first operation comprises concatenation (paragraph 0068-0072). Allowable Subject Matter Claims 11-17 are allowed. The claimed invention is directed towards a channel information obtaining apparatus the receives an FDD uplink channel and TDD channel and performs FDD downlink channel discovery based on the received uplink channel. Essentially the inverse of what is conventionally done in the prior art (as shown above, where a client receiver is in communication with a base station, receives downlink channels and returns measurements to said base station in the form of a reference signal for establishing communication). The examiner found no teaching or reasonably suggestion to determine FDD downlink channels in the manner claimed in the prior art at the time of effective filing. Conclusion Any inquiry concerning this communication or earlier communications from the examiner should be directed to DOMINIC D SALTARELLI whose telephone number is (571)272-7302. The examiner can normally be reached 9:00 am - 5:00 pm EST. Examiner interviews are available via telephone, in-person, and video conferencing using a USPTO supplied web-based collaboration tool. To schedule an interview, applicant is encouraged to use the USPTO Automated Interview Request (AIR) at http://www.uspto.gov/interviewpractice. If attempts to reach the examiner by telephone are unsuccessful, the examiner’s supervisor, Nathan Flynn can be reached at (571) 272-1915. The fax phone number for the organization where this application or proceeding is assigned is 571-273-8300. Information regarding the status of published or unpublished applications may be obtained from Patent Center. Unpublished application information in Patent Center is available to registered users. To file and manage patent submissions in Patent Center, visit: https://patentcenter.uspto.gov. Visit https://www.uspto.gov/patents/apply/patent-center for more information about Patent Center and https://www.uspto.gov/patents/docx for information about filing in DOCX format. For additional questions, contact the Electronic Business Center (EBC) at 866-217-9197 (toll-free). If you would like assistance from a USPTO Customer Service Representative, call 800-786-9199 (IN USA OR CANADA) or 571-272-1000. /DOMINIC D SALTARELLI/ Primary Examiner, Art Unit 2421
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Prosecution Timeline

Apr 23, 2025
Application Filed
Aug 10, 2026
Non-Final Rejection mailed — §102 (current)

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Prosecution Projections

1-2
Expected OA Rounds
79%
Grant Probability
94%
With Interview (+14.8%)
2y 6m (~1y 1m remaining)
Median Time to Grant
Low
PTA Risk
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