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Last updated: April 19, 2026
Application No. 17/897,617

TEXTURED METAL CORE PRINTED CIRCUIT BOARDS FOR IMPROVED THERMAL DISSIPATION

Non-Final OA §103
Filed
Aug 29, 2022
Examiner
PAPE, ZACHARY
Art Unit
2835
Tech Center
2800 — Semiconductors & Electrical Systems
Assignee
Creeled Inc.
OA Round
7 (Non-Final)
72%
Grant Probability
Favorable
7-8
OA Rounds
2y 5m
To Grant
92%
With Interview

Examiner Intelligence

Grants 72% — above average
72%
Career Allow Rate
792 granted / 1094 resolved
+4.4% vs TC avg
Strong +20% interview lift
Without
With
+19.9%
Interview Lift
resolved cases with interview
Typical timeline
2y 5m
Avg Prosecution
33 currently pending
Career history
1127
Total Applications
across all art units

Statute-Specific Performance

§101
0.2%
-39.8% vs TC avg
§103
46.5%
+6.5% vs TC avg
§102
27.9%
-12.1% vs TC avg
§112
19.7%
-20.3% vs TC avg
Black line = Tech Center average estimate • Based on career data from 1094 resolved cases

Office Action

§103
DETAILED ACTION Notice of Pre-AIA or AIA Status The present application, filed on or after March 16, 2013, is being examined under the first inventor to file provisions of the AIA . Continued Examination Under 37 CFR 1.114 A request for continued examination under 37 CFR 1.114, including the fee set forth in 37 CFR 1.17(e), was filed in this application after final rejection. Since this application is eligible for continued examination under 37 CFR 1.114, and the fee set forth in 37 CFR 1.17(e) has been timely paid, the finality of the previous Office action has been withdrawn pursuant to 37 CFR 1.114. Applicant's submission filed on 1/5/2026 has been entered. Claim Interpretation The term, “a second surface is….textured” in claims 1 and 9 is interpreted to mean that the second surface has increased surface area (As compared to a planar surface) to more effectively radiate or conduct thermal energy to surroundings and can be, for example, grooves or channels in the surface (See ¶ 0005 of the present application written description, see also Figs 2-7). Claim Rejections - 35 USC § 103 The following is a quotation of 35 U.S.C. 103 which forms the basis for all obviousness rejections set forth in this Office action: A patent for a claimed invention may not be obtained, notwithstanding that the claimed invention is not identically disclosed as set forth in section 102, if the differences between the claimed invention and the prior art are such that the claimed invention as a whole would have been obvious before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to a person having ordinary skill in the art to which the claimed invention pertains. Patentability shall not be negated by the manner in which the invention was made. Claims 1-10, 14-15, 17-20 are rejected under 35 U.S.C. 103 as being unpatentable over Hochstein (US 5,857,767) in view of Lin et al. (US 6,864,513 – hereinafter, “Lin”) in view of Yan et al. (CN 202228982 – hereinafter, “Yan”) and further in view of Li (US 11,632,878). With respect to claim 1, Hochstein teaches (In Figs 2 and 4) a metal core printed circuit board, comprising: a first metal layer (18, Col. 5, ll. 1-8) with one or more circuit components (20) mounted on a first surface thereof (See Fig 4); a dielectric layer (16, Col. 4, ll. 20-22) bonded to a second surface of the first metal layer (18), opposite the first surface (See Fig 4); and a second metal layer (12, Col. 4, ll. 15-20) bonded to the dielectric layer (16), wherein a first surface of the second metal layer is bonded to the dielectric layer (See Fig 4), and a second surface of the second metal layer, opposite the first surface, is textured (See Fig 4, the second surface of the second metal layer has protrusions which creates grooves or channels). Hochstein fails to specifically teach or suggest that the first metal layer is one of copper or a copper alloy and that the metal core printed circuit board comprises a plurality of holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, wherein each hole of the plurality of holes is threaded, and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the second surface of the second metal layer. Lin, however, teaches a printed circuit board with a first metal layer (100) is made of copper (Col. 2, ll. 4-6). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Lin with that of Hochstein, such that the first metal layer is copper, as taught by Lin, since doing so would allow for the first metal layer to be made of a material which is highly thermally and electrically conductive, easy to manufacture, and low in cost. Furthermore, it is noted that the selection of a known material based on its suitability for its intended use supports a prima facie obviousness determination1 and it is respectfully submitted that copper is a suitable material for use as a trace material. Regarding the limitations requiring a plurality of holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, wherein each hole of the plurality of holes is threaded, Yan teaches (In Fig 3) a plurality of threaded holes (6) through a portion of a second surface (Bottom surface) of a metal core printed circuit board (2) that is textured (See Fig 3), the plurality of holes (6) configured to accept screws or fasteners (“In the utility model embodiment, shown in Figure 3, substrate and a radiating plate or back plate of the printed circuit board is respectively corresponding to each other is provided with a threaded hole 6, screw hole 6 for screwing screw for fixing metal core printed circuit board and the radiating plate or backboard.”). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Yan with that of modified Hochstein, such that Hochstein includes a plurality of threaded holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, as taught by Yan, since doing so would allow for the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein to be affixed to another structure. Regarding the limitations that, wherein the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the second surface of the second metal layer; Li teaches (In Fig 2A) a heat dissipation plate (5) which comprises a plurality of holes (Holes associated with 532 and 539) through at least one layer that accept screws or fasteners (632), and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed (532) to provide a raised surface on which the heat dissipation plate can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage a second surface of the heat dissipation plate (See Fig 2A). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Li with that of modified Hochstein, such that, in modified Hochstein, the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the second surface of the second metal layer, as taught by Li, since doing so would allow the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein to be mounted to a housing to protect the metal core printed circuit board. With respect to claim 2, Hochstein further teaches that the second metal layer (12) is exposed to air (Col. 6, ll. 57-62). With respect to claim 3, Hochstein further teaches that the textured second surface of the second metal layer (12) facilitates improved thermal energy transfer to a heat sink (The increased surface area caused by the texture in Hochstein facilitates improved thermal energy transfer to a heat sink, as taught by Applicant in ¶ 0055 of the present written description (“The increased surface area of the textured MCPCB 100 can increase the surface area in which the thermal paste 708 is in contact, thus improving the heat transfer in this traditional use of a heatsink and MCPCB.”)). With respect to claim 4, Hochstein further teaches that the second surface of the second metal layer is grooved according to a predefined pattern (See Fig 2, the second surface of 12 has predefined grooves between the fins). With respect to claim 5, Hochstein further teaches that the predefined pattern is at least one of a radial pattern, a parallel groove pattern (See Fig 2, the grooves in the second surface are parallel), a cross-hatch pattern, or a spiral pattern. With respect to claim 6, Hochstein further teaches that the predefined pattern comprises a first predefined pattern and a second predefined pattern that is arranged between individual features of the first predefined pattern (See Fig A below). PNG media_image1.png 496 593 media_image1.png Greyscale With respect to claim 7, even though the claims are limited and defined by the recited process, the determination of patentability of the product is based on the product itself, and does not depend on its method of production. If the product in the product-by-process claim is the same as or obvious from a product of the prior art, the claim is unpatentable even though the prior product was made by a different process2. In the present case, the product in the product-by-process claim is the same as the product disclosed by Hochstein Figs 2 and 4 and thus how the textured surface is made is immaterial to patentability. With respect to claim 8, Hochstein further teaches that the second metal layer (12) is at least one of copper or aluminum (Col. 4, ll. 15-20). With respect to claim 9, Hochstein teaches (In Figs 2 and 4) an assembly (10), comprising: a metal core printed circuit board comprising: a first metal layer (18) with one or more circuit components (20) mounted on a first surface thereof; a dielectric layer (16) bonded to a second surface of the first metal layer, opposite the first surface; and a second metal layer (12) bonded to the dielectric layer, wherein a first surface of the second metal layer is bonded to the dielectric layer (See Fig 4), and a second surface of the second metal layer, opposite the first surface, is textured (With grooves or channels, see Figs 2 and 4), and a housing (28) mounted to the metal core printed circuit board, and at least partially covering the first surface of the first metal layer (See Figs 1-2). Hochstein fails to specifically teach or suggest that the first metal layer is one of copper or a copper alloy and that the metal core printed circuit board comprises a plurality of holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, wherein each hole of the plurality of holes is threaded, and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the second surface of the second metal layer. Lin, however, teaches a printed circuit board with a first metal layer (100) is made of copper (Col. 2, ll. 4-6). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Lin with that of Hochstein, such that the first metal layer is copper, as taught by Lin, since doing so would allow for the first metal layer to be made of a material which is highly thermally and electrically conductive, easy to manufacture, and low in cost. Furthermore, it is noted that the selection of a known material based on its suitability for its intended use supports a prima facie obviousness determination1 and it is respectfully submitted that copper is a suitable material for use as a trace material. Regarding the limitations requiring a plurality of holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, wherein each hole of the plurality of holes is threaded, Yan teaches (In Fig 3) a plurality of threaded holes (6) through a portion of a second surface (Bottom surface) of a metal core printed circuit board (2) that is textured (See Fig 3), the plurality of holes (6) configured to accept screws or fasteners (“In the utility model embodiment, shown in Figure 3, substrate and a radiating plate or back plate of the printed circuit board is respectively corresponding to each other is provided with a threaded hole 6, screw hole 6 for screwing screw for fixing metal core printed circuit board and the radiating plate or backboard.”). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Yan with that of modified Hochstein, such that Hochstein includes a plurality of threaded holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, as taught by Yan, since doing so would allow for the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein to be affixed to another structure. Regarding the limitations that the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the second surface of the second metal layer; Li teaches (In Fig 2A) a heat dissipation plate (5) which comprises a plurality of holes (Holes associated with 532 and 539) through at least one layer that accept screws or fasteners (632), and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed (532) to provide a raised surface on which the heat dissipation plate can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage a second surface of the heat dissipation plate (See Fig 2A). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Li with that of modified Hochstein, such that, in modified Hochstein, the metal core printed circuit board comprises a plurality of holes through at least one of the second metal layer and the dielectric layer, that accept screws or fasteners, and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the second surface of the second metal layer, as taught by Li, since doing so would allow the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein to be mounted to a housing to protect the metal core printed circuit board. With respect to claim 10, Hochstein as modified by Lin teaches the limitations of claim 9 as per above and Hochstein further teaches that the second surface can be cooled by circulating air (Col. 6, ll. 59-62) but fails to specifically teach or suggest a fan configured to blow air over the second surface of the second metal layer. Lin, however, teaches (In Fig 3) a fan (60) configured to blow air over a second surface of a second conductive layer (30). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Lin with that of Hochstein, such that Hochstein includes a fan configured to blow air over the second surface of the second metal layer, as taught by Lin, since doing so would provide extra cooling to the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein. With respect to claim 14, Hochstein further teaches that the one or more circuit components (20) comprise one or more light emitting diode chips (Col. 6, l. 30, “Common, surface mount LEDs 20”). With respect to claim 15, Hochstein further teaches that the assembly (10) comprises a light fixture (Col. 4, ll. 11-14). With respect to claim 17, even though the claims are limited and defined by the recited process, the determination of patentability of the product is based on the product itself, and does not depend on its method of production. If the product in the product-by-process claim is the same as or obvious from a product of the prior art, the claim is unpatentable even though the prior product was made by a different process2. In the present case, the product in the product-by-process claim is the same as the product disclosed by Hochstein Figs 2 and 4 and thus how the textured surface is made is immaterial to patentability. With respect to claim 18, Hochstein teaches (In Figs 1-4) a light emitting diode device (10), comprising: a light emitting diode chip (20); a metal core printed circuit board (12, 16, 18) comprising a first metal layer (18) and a second metal layer (12) on which the light emitting diode chip (20) is mounted on a top surface of the first metal layer thereof (See Fig 2), wherein a bottom surface of the second metal layer of the metal core printed circuit board is textured with one or more of grooves (Grooves between fins 14) or etching; and a housing (28), mounted to the metal core printed circuit board, and at least partially covering the top surface of the metal core printed circuit board (See Figs 1-2), wherein the housing (28) does not cover the bottom surface of the metal core printed circuit board (See Fig 2). Hochstein fails to specifically teach or suggest that the first metal layer is one of copper or a copper alloy and that the metal core printed circuit board comprises a plurality of holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, wherein each hole of the plurality of holes is threaded, and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the bottom surface of the second metal layer. Lin, however, teaches a printed circuit board with a first metal layer (100) is made of copper (Col. 2, ll. 4-6). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Lin with that of Hochstein, such that the first metal layer is copper, as taught by Lin, since doing so would allow for the first metal layer to be made of a material which is highly thermally and electrically conductive, easy to manufacture, and low in cost. Furthermore, it is noted that the selection of a known material based on its suitability for its intended use supports a prima facie obviousness determination1 and it is respectfully submitted that copper is a suitable material for use as a trace material. Regarding the limitations requiring a plurality of holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, wherein each hole of the plurality of holes is threaded, Yan teaches (In Fig 3) a plurality of threaded holes (6) through a portion of a second surface (Bottom surface) of a metal core printed circuit board (2) that is textured (See Fig 3), the plurality of holes (6) configured to accept screws or fasteners (“In the utility model embodiment, shown in Figure 3, substrate and a radiating plate or back plate of the printed circuit board is respectively corresponding to each other is provided with a threaded hole 6, screw hole 6 for screwing screw for fixing metal core printed circuit board and the radiating plate or backboard.”). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Yan with that of modified Hochstein, such that Hochstein includes a plurality of threaded holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, as taught by Yan, since doing so would allow for the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein to be affixed to another structure. Regarding the limitations that the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the bottom surface of the second metal layer; Li teaches (In Fig 2A) a heat dissipation plate (5) which comprises a plurality of holes (Holes associated with 532 and 539) through at least one layer that accept screws or fasteners (632), and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed (532) to provide a raised surface on which the heat dissipation plate can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage a surface of the heat dissipation plate (See Fig 2A). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Li with that of modified Hochstein, such that, in modified Hochstein, the metal core printed circuit board comprises a plurality of holes through at least one of the second metal layer and the dielectric layer, that accept screws or fasteners, and wherein the plurality of holes are embossed to provide a raised surface on which the metal core printed circuit board can abut an apparatus being fastened thereon so that the apparatus does not damage the bottom surface of the second metal layer, as taught by Li, since doing so would allow the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein to be mounted to a housing to protect the metal core printed circuit board. With respect to claim 19, Hochstein further teaches that the metal core printed circuit board comprises grooves of at least one of a radial pattern, a parallel groove pattern (The grooves in Hochstein are parallel, see Fig 2), a cross-hatch pattern, or a spiral pattern. With respect to claim 20, Hochstein further teaches that the metal core printed circuit board is textured with grooves (See Fig 2). With respect to claim 20 reciting “etching”, even though the claims are limited and defined by the recited process, the determination of patentability of the product is based on the product itself, and does not depend on its method of production. If the product in the product-by-process claim is the same as or obvious from a product of the prior art, the claim is unpatentable even though the prior product was made by a different process2. In the present case, the product in the product-by-process limitation in claim 20 is the same as the product disclosed by Hochstein Figs 2 and 4 and thus how the textured surface is made is immaterial to patentability. Claim 11 is rejected under 35 U.S.C. 103 as being unpatentable over Hochstein in view of Lin in view of Yan in view of Li and further in view of Mira (US 5,661,638). With respect to claim 11, Hochstein as modified by Lin, Yan and Li teaches the limitations of claim 10 as per above but fails to specifically teach or suggest wherein the second surface of the second metal layer comprises radial grooves, and wherein the fan is mounted such that the fan blows air perpendicular to the second surface of the second metal layer. Mira, however, teaches wherein a second surface (Top surface of base 20) of a metal layer comprises radial grooves (Radial grooves created by radial fins 22) and wherein a fan (28) is mounted such that the fan blows air perpendicular to the second surface of the metal layer (Fan blows air downward perpendicular to the top surface of the base 20, Col. 4, ll. 50-67). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Mira with that of Hochstein as modified by Lin such that the second surface of the second metal layer comprises radial grooves and the fan is mounted such that it blows air perpendicular to the second surface of the second metal layer, as taught by Mira, since doing so would provide a heat sink unit or assembly which provides substantial surface area without substantially slowing or restricting the flow of coolant air across the surface of the heat sink unit or assembly (Mira: Col. 2, ll. 22-26). Claim 12 is rejected under 35 U.S.C. 103 as being unpatentable over Hochstein in view of Lin in view of Yan in view of Li and further in view of Tang et al. (US 2019/0327854 – hereinafter, “Tang”). With respect to claim 12, Hochstein as modified by Lin, Yan and Li teaches the limitations of claim 10 as per above and Hochstein further teaches that the second surface of the second metal layer comprises parallel grooves (See Fig 2) but fails to specifically teach or suggest a fan is mounted such that the fan blows air parallel to parallel grooves. Tang, however, teaches (In Fig 1) a fan (110) which is mounted such that the fan blows air parallel to parallel grooves (Fig 1, parallel grooves created by parallel fins 140. See also ¶ 0036). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Tang with that of Hochstein, such that a fan is mounted such that the fan blows air parallel to parallel grooves, as taught by Tang, since doing so would increase heat transfer from the second surface to the atmosphere. Claim 13 is rejected under 35 U.S.C. 103 as being unpatentable over Hochstein in view of Lin in view of Yan in view of Li and further in view of Hsu (US 2009/0180289). With respect to claim 13, Hochstein as modified by Lin, Yan and Li teaches the limitations of claim 9 as per above but fails to specifically teach or suggest a heatsink mounted to the metal core printed circuit board to dissipate thermal energy from the second surface of the second metal layer; and thermal paste between the heatsink and the second surface of the second metal layer. Hsu, however, teaches (In Figs 1-2) a heatsink (2215 + 227) mounted to a substrate (210) to dissipate thermal energy from a second surface (2102) of the substrate; and thermal paste (grease, wherein the broadest reasonable interpretation of the term, “thermal paste” includes a thermal grease) between the heatsink and the second surface of the second metal layer (¶ 0025, “The first heat-conducting fins 214 are interleaved with the second heat-conducting fins 227, and in thermal contact with the heat-conducting bottom plate 2215. A thermal grease 203 can be applied at an interface between the neighboring first and second heat-conducting fins 214, 227, and at an interface between the first heat-conducting fins 214 and the heat-conducting bottom plate 2215.”). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Hsu with that of Hochstein, such that a heatsink is mounted to the metal core printed circuit board to dissipate thermal energy from the second surface of the second metal layer; and thermal paste is provided between the heatsink and the second surface of the second metal layer, as taught by Hsu, since doing so would provide for additional heat dissipation capacity to the metal core printed circuit board of Hochstein. Claim 16 is rejected under 35 U.S.C. 103 as being unpatentable over Hochstein in view of Lin in view of Yan in view of Li and further in view of Gohara et al. (US 2014/0043765 – hereinafter, “Gohara”). With respect to claim 16, Hochstein as modified by Lin, Yan and Li teaches the limitations of claim 9 as per above but fails to specifically teach or suggest a water-cooling system configured to pump water over the second surface of the second metal layer. Gohara, however, teaches (In Fig 2 and ¶ 0066) a water-cooling system configured to pump water over a bottom surface and fins (2C) of a metal layer (2B). It would have been obvious to one having ordinary skill in the art before the effective filing date of the claimed invention to combine the teachings of Gohara with that of Hochstein, such that Hochstein includes a water-cooling system configured to pump water over the second surface of the second metal layer, as taught by Gohara, since doing so would allow for higher heat removal from the second surface since convectively flowing a liquid over the second surface will remove more heat than convectively flowing a gas, such as air, over the second surface. Response to Arguments With respect to the Applicant’s remarks to claim 1 that, “Therefore, Li and Zhou do not cure the deficiencies of Hochstein and Lin with regard to wherein the metal core printed circuit board comprises a plurality of holes through a portion of the second surface of the second metal layer that is textured, the plurality of holes configured to accept screws or fasteners, wherein each hole of the plurality of holes is threaded and therefore, Hochstein, Lin, Zhou, and Li, alone or in combination, do not teach or suggest all the elements of the claim 1, and so withdrawal of this rejection is respectfully requested.” (Present remarks page 7) the Examiner agrees and notes that the previous 103 rejection to claim 1 in view of Hochstein, Lin, Zhou and Li has been withdrawn. However, a new grounds rejection is provided above to claim 1 in view of Hochstein, Lin, Yan, and Li where Yan explicitly teaches (In Fig 3) a metal core printed circuit board (2) with a second surface (bottom surface) which has a texture (See Fig 3) and a plurality of threaded holes (3) in the texture, which is believed to resolve any potential deficiencies in Hochstein, Lin, and Li. Accordingly, claim 1 is believed to be prima facie obvious in view of Hochstein, Lin, Yan, and Li. With respect to the Applicant’s remaining remarks to claims 9 and 18 (Present remarks page 7) the Examiner notes that claims 9 and 18 are believed to also be prima facie obvious in view of Hochstein, Lin, Yan, and Li for similar reasons as described above with respect to claim 1. Conclusion Any inquiry concerning this communication or earlier communications from the examiner should be directed to ZACHARY M PAPE whose telephone number is (571)272-2201. The examiner can normally be reached M-F: 9am - 6pm EST. Examiner interviews are available via telephone, in-person, and video conferencing using a USPTO supplied web-based collaboration tool. To schedule an interview, applicant is encouraged to use the USPTO Automated Interview Request (AIR) at http://www.uspto.gov/interviewpractice. If attempts to reach the examiner by telephone are unsuccessful, the examiner’s supervisor, Jayprakash N Gandhi can be reached at 571-272-3740. The fax phone number for the organization where this application or proceeding is assigned is 571-273-8300. Information regarding the status of published or unpublished applications may be obtained from Patent Center. Unpublished application information in Patent Center is available to registered users. To file and manage patent submissions in Patent Center, visit: https://patentcenter.uspto.gov. Visit https://www.uspto.gov/patents/apply/patent-center for more information about Patent Center and https://www.uspto.gov/patents/docx for information about filing in DOCX format. For additional questions, contact the Electronic Business Center (EBC) at 866-217-9197 (toll-free). If you would like assistance from a USPTO Customer Service Representative, call 800-786-9199 (IN USA OR CANADA) or 571-272-1000. /ZACHARY PAPE/Primary Examiner, Art Unit 2835 1 MPEP 2144.07 2 In re Thorpe, 227 USPQ 964, 966 (Fed. Cir. 1985).
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Prosecution Timeline

Aug 29, 2022
Application Filed
May 01, 2024
Non-Final Rejection — §103
Jul 30, 2024
Response Filed
Aug 13, 2024
Final Rejection — §103
Oct 28, 2024
Request for Continued Examination
Oct 30, 2024
Response after Non-Final Action
Nov 22, 2024
Non-Final Rejection — §103
Feb 21, 2025
Response Filed
Mar 12, 2025
Final Rejection — §103
May 14, 2025
Response after Non-Final Action
May 29, 2025
Request for Continued Examination
May 30, 2025
Response after Non-Final Action
Jun 25, 2025
Non-Final Rejection — §103
Sep 23, 2025
Response Filed
Oct 07, 2025
Final Rejection — §103
Dec 04, 2025
Response after Non-Final Action
Jan 05, 2026
Request for Continued Examination
Jan 22, 2026
Response after Non-Final Action
Jan 29, 2026
Non-Final Rejection — §103 (current)

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